The secret wedding of "Supreme Master Ching Hai"

尼姑清海無上師還俗結婚紀錄片

Đám cưới bí mật của "Thanh Hải vô thượng sư"

Le mariage secret de "Maitre Supreme Ching Hai"

 

EDIT : Since this summer, Supreme Master TV freelabourer disciples try their best to hide this video, by sending to YouTube Support complaints for privacy violation. They made it removed at least 8 times already (see the dead links below). Do you know what it means ? They really, really don't want you to see this videoclip.

 

The question is... why ? 

Yeah, why? Just think about it, or close your eyes and keep meditating...  

"The inconvenient truth", as would say Al Gore...

 

Anyway, many people have copies of this videoclip, and regulary upload it again.

 

Watch the video online (streaming) :

Long version :

Short version :

Or see SupremeLeak channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/SupremeLeak

 

Direct download short version :

 

 

Recently removed by SMTV in their vain efforts to hide the truth from the disciples and the public :

First links, all removed by SMTV : 

 

Comments on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owXSfpjuJNA

Added by alexishanoi on 2011-08-25

(This video is about to be removed by YouTube because of a complaint from a disciple of Ching Hai)

  • It will only last 48h, the complaint have been sent to YouTube already. They are quite reactive now, to hide the truth.

And they don't evendare to explain why they want to remove it. Cowards :)

Liars and cowards.

alexishanoi

Well said! Liars and cowards, Indeed!:D

sunnylightify 2 days ago

  • Thank you so much!! Well done!:D

sunnylightify2 days ago

 

 

Comments on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqwJn-gsu5o

Added by SupremeLeak on 2011-08-20

(This video is about to be removed by YouTube because of a complaint from a disciple of Ching Hai)

 

  • How do you disciples know for sure if ching hai's level is as high as she claimed, as high as GOD from 8th realm? If she's just a normal human being like you (sure, she got more plus: plus narcissist, vain etc), which she is, then those 5 holy names are powerless, useless because no power behind them. Please think, if these names were so powerful, why did ching hai feel the need to give you the "gift" mantra after all these years? Pls "check this out" before you wastemore of your precious life
    bewise123451 hour ago

 

 

  • ching hai is the biggest liar in the century. claims as god from 8th bloody realm.. what is 8th realm anyway... i remember seeing her in 1 of her lecture videos, she was dancing with dance music, loud music with light flashing around, looks like in some kind of discotheque, and she was dancing like nut, maybe she just took marijuana..or even popos....also i saw her, again, in 1 of her bloody lecture videos, she was playing golf, wearing some stupidhat...Hah! a bloody saint.. give me a break...

bewise12345 1 day ago

  • @bewise12345: She was hardly nun’s like/ detached as she used to claim. She secretly went to Disco nightclub when she was on world lecture tour (2000?) to relieve her stress. Why quanyin meditation can’t do the wonder as she promised? She had to resort into going to nightclub? That’s how she met the daughter of a restaurant owner at Monaco. About more than 100 followers werepresent on that Monaco beach. Who knows? disco dance, nightclub could be her youth's hobby or a lifttime hobby? :)
    sunnylightify1 day ago

 

  • Actually YouTube may not be the most convenient platform for this video, as it is too easy to complain and remove video without any explanation.

Here are some other links for this video (remove spaces) :

ht tp ://ww w .dailymotion. com/video/xkmwk1_supreme-maste­r-ching-hai-kisses-her-young-b­ridegroom-in-1997_news

ht tp ://www .megavideo. com/?d=2WZQMB5S

SupremeLeak

  • Hi Madam Ching Hide,
    See how your situation becomes worse by yours &/or your disciples stupid, deperate & fruitless actions of trying to delete these videos from the internet.

You must be feeling terribly& supremely POWERLESS right now:}
BiscayneNationalPark

 

  • Here we are, these shameless liars already madea complaint for privacy violation, and that video will probably be removed in the next 48 hours. Anyway, we can spent 5 mins sometimes to upload it again.

Feel free to download this video and upload it you too, and not only on YouTube... the more there are, the better :)

Good luck to those who think that the truth can be hidden... internet forgets nothing :)

SupremeLeak

  • Please kindly check back to Supremeleak website. 2 of your linked videos have been attacked/deleted by the ching hai organisation.

Theyare indeed getting so deperate as they try to clean up their master's nasty mess behind her!

BiscayneNationalPark

  • Thanks, I fix it right now.

They are quite funny anyway, many of us have copies of that video, and any of us can reupload it at any time. They need 3 daysto remove a video, we only need 5 minutes to reupload. FAIL :)

We could even play that funny game : 1 video removed = 2 reuploaded :)

SupremeLeak

 

alexishanoi

 

  • come on guys, you who still follow her, open your eyes, your mind, safe your butts and get out from this group, before you feel sorry in the future.. dont think too small of your self. she doesnt give you any light, if you ever have it, it is your own nature. lots of people out there see even so much better light than ching hai pupils!! and they are so much more humble too! Specially more humble than chinghai, who even bother to make tv station and make you become her free workers!
  • who even bother to make tv station for her narcissist and vain... and make you her free workers! and i was 1 of these poor free laborer of her.. my life was only for smtv, eat, and sleep....my first thing was smtv, then smtv during the day, and before sleep smtv again..thought thati was working to save the planet. thought that i was a bloody saint! (hehe) that saint thing is so silly.... if you even a saint, would you call yourself a saint? and just let people call you a saint? saint my ....!
  • I finished with ching hai stuff after more than 7 years devotion, great devotion to this woman. yes, i meditatedvery delegently. got light now and then, got the sound.. but that was not from ching hai bless. she is not bloody enlightened master, she isjust a power mad, supreme narcissist, greed, vain, compulsive/ habitual liar, fantasist, a cold-hearted nutter. (got the last from other forum, kinda like it:))
  • if youwant to study sound and light meditation, here, i give you a link of a pdf file for the complete instruction, just like what the group of chinghoi gives: bahai studies. net /asma / suratshabdyoga2. pdf please put triple w before bahai and omit the spaces. this meditation is not so secret like what this group said... this pdf file completed with the five holly names as well.. come on..open it now...

bewise12345

 

  • very sad for most ofchinghai's disciples still struggling & confused for getting chinghai's promised light & music sound experience. even when they are told they are above 3rd level, none of those millions of sunlights appear ? or the moon? piano music?it proves santmat/quanyin method is a fraud system. chinghai is a supreme fraud too. Just like all santmat GOD masters. They bait light&sound promised experience to lure & trap disciples into oppressive 'cult'. none 'progressive' experience.
  • In chinghais cult ,when you don't get the promised light&sound experience (seems to be the case for most followers), all the blames/shames willbe placed on you such as your previous life not spiritual & you should be grateful you got initiated by chinghai God. These things are always hidden before you join in this cult. Even for the followers who really get rare light experience, most are very general 'common' ones found in any meditation method, but fooled by fraud chinghai as 'true' light.

sunnylightify

beautynature11

  • I am her disciple - she allowed me to see TRUE Inner light and hear TRUE inner sound (And I saw Kirpal statistic and such). I have obtained many great blessings from her - including greater love and wisdom. As for the spiritualMaster I could not wish for any better.

technickeveci

 

  • @technickeveciits good that you at least read the kirpal statistic whichhopefully disciples will now go & google. But your research doesn't need to end there. There are such things as the "prisoner's cinema" & i'm sure in your case the "stockholm syndrome".

You belittle yourself by thinking this person gives you "love and wisdom". If even a dog can have inherent "love & wisdom" without master "blessing" it, how much more a human being like your good self.

You are "better" than this.

  • light & sound experience canhappen in any meditation method, they are nothing to do with enlightment or divine experience. check more about meditation & santmat which has been proved to be a fraud & oppressive corrupt feudal system.Even 'chinghai is a true living liar'. (a great line, by the way :)), she is honest about the part that she never explicably described her inner 5th level of harp etc when she crowned to be an enlightment master so did all santmat GOD masters.
  • The chinghai’s ‘TRUE’ light bullshit because she wants to claim the credit and ownership of that common light experienceonly obtained through her quanyin method & invalid all light seen other than quanyin method. It’s very likely she didn’t have 5th level santmat experience when she self-claimed to be an enlightened master. But then again, santmat/ quanyin is a fraud belief system.
    BiscayneNationalPark     3 days ago

 

  • Yes, she also take cash from her followers to buy some meditation centers (of whom she is the owner, of course), and to have a luxurious life in Monaco with other rich people, and in the same time pretending that she's doing the good for poor people... Do you know how many lifes could be saved with the money she spends for her personal limousine? :)

Up to you, why true masters usually have a very simple life,with no luxure? Just think about it. Good luck to you.

alexishanoi

  • Supreme Master Ching Hai is also a great an Enlightened Master.Please do more research and use your wisdom.

beautynature11

BiscayneNationalPark

 

  • What avery beautiful bride ! Supreme Master Ching Hai is a TRUE LIVING MASTER.

beautynature11

  • Yeah, that's what shesays... she's also a true living liar :D
    alexishanoi
  • @beautynature11Yes a beautiful bride & a beautiful event, but ask yourself why a so called "TRUE LIVING MASTER" will be so afraid to show such a beautiful eventon her own SuprememasterTV channel? What's she trying to hide? How supreme is that...LOL.

Now will you kindly go & ask ching hai this question? Ask nicely, then come back & let us know.

If not then you would have proved to yourself that this woman is indeed a "TRUE LIVING MASTER" of LIES, DECEIT & ABUSE.

BiscayneNationalPark

 

First upload :

Supreme Master Ching Hai Kisses her young bridegroom in 1997

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Oup32O4sw

 

De : BiscayneNationalPark | Créé le : 16 janv. 2010

Video downloaded from the Youtuber:hoanglong14
This wedding took place on Wednesday 28th May 1997. Nothing wrong with marriage but for some resaon ching hai keeps this a secret from her disciples.
Maybe its because she has presented herself as God to them & does not want to appear to succumb to "mundane" human desires.
Up till the date of posting this video here, ching hai has never openly mentioned this wedding to her followers. So why the secrecy? A few of the older disciples know about this wedding but choose to keep it quiet & rationalize this in connection with the supposed divinity of this woman.
Other diehard disciples unable to accept their pure-beloved-almighty-supreme-master-god-ching hai can take part in sensual expressions of love & wed whoever she's in love with even claim this video is a fake. The fact is these same doubters are the ones who know what will happen to them if they even dared ask the supreme one about the authenticity of this. This woman's temper is legendary EVEN BEFORE she crowned herself the supreme one!
It will be nice to hear the unbiased views of video technicians about this video's authenticity.
Biscayne.

Further Links:

Truth of the Inner Light/Sound
(The Kirpal Staticstic)
http://www.ex-premie.org/papers/kirpal_statistic.htm


True Links
http://ramsss.com/ching-hai/

Ching Hai Articles
http://www.rickross.com/groups/suma_ching.html


Ching Hai's real guru(NOT fake 450yr old Khuda Ji)
http://elearn.mtsac.edu/philosophy/gurufile.htm

Chinghai Thailand Incident
http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2006/12/where-did-ching-hai-fly.html

Open Letter To Chinghai
http://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/supreme-master-ching-hai-from...

Ching hai disciples are not the first ones in history to be decieved & led on a series of wild goose chases to keep them occupied, brainwashed, used & abused. Here are experiences of disciples of another older light & sound meditation group from the 1970s. Notice the similarities?
http://www.ex-premie.org/pages/journeys.htm

Ex Members of SEVERAL Light & Sound Meditation Groups including Ching Hai's group discuss & comfort each other in this forum.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exsat/msearch?query=ching+hai&submit=Search...

Initiates of ching hai fake 5 star reviews on Amazon dotcom to bump up sales of her substandard book. Initiates were told to post false reviews by their respective local representatives or contact persons. But who originated that instruction in the first place? Your guess is as good as any others:)
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/9866895149/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?_encoding...

THE PSYCHOLOGY OF SPIRITUAL MOVEMENTS
Indepth Essay On Spiritual Groups. Be Prepared To Be Shocked!
http://www.xs4all.nl/~wichm/psymove.html

The Guru Test
How to check if your Guru is real or fake
http://www.energygrid.com/spirit/ap-falsegurutest.html

The unsuitable blog!
Direct talking blog on ching hai's hypocritical grasp of the environmental issues.
http://thesietch.org/mysietch/keith/2008/03/31/ching-hai-supreme-masterof-hyp...

More Amazon Dotcom Deceit!
ching hai disciples' Amazon book promotion deceit
Well go see for yourselves how ching hai's disciples break their own precepts by deceiving the public & Amazon.com to push her books to number 1 on the bestseller list. Could'nt a socalled supreme master trust her book to sell by its own merit? And a spiritual teacher who preaches one thing and allows her students to do another, and in the full glare of the world. If this is what they blatantly do in public one wonders what happens behind closed doors!!
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/9866895076/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?_encoding...

 

Comments

 

  • look folks, i don't know about this lady but whether or not she was married has absolutely nothing to do with attainment of spiritual consciousness. there have been many great realized souls that were married. lahirimasaya in Yogananda's crew...Bhakthivinoda Thakur of the vaisnavs...i met this is kindergarten physical plane stuff...lord have mercy.

momskid 1 week ago 2 

  • @momskidTell that to ching hai's confused disciples who mainly have replied to this video by leaving rude comments, calling this video afake or hurling abuse at the poster.

One wonders what level of "attainment of spiritual consciousness" this ching hai posseses after reducing her disciples into blubbering/deluded wrecks from just a simple wedding ceremony.

Seems this socalled suprememaster can't even function in "kindergarten physical plane stuff" without causing such alarm in her group.

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Megapure1000 4 days ago

From what I see from her wedding, I think she abused her authority- to con her attendant to get sex ( not uncommon for male gurus to abuse power of having sex with female disciples)/ or a green card to the usa. I won’t surprise if she has sex with her male attendants. (might be true)

Anybody seethe groom around in the group anymore? Probably he was already kicked out and his Master would brand him as one of her previous life’s worst enemies to further undermine him.-very devious!

Megapure1000 4 days ago

  • So?

animalliberation0961 1 week ago

  • She also claimed that she had obtained a PhD but completely forgot about it at Menton centre 2 years ago with around 300 disciples gathering mostly Taiwanese. As I heard her tapes dated before 1990 metioned her ex-husband who has double Dr, (medical doctor and phd) seemings proudly, very unlikelyshe would have forgot her own Phd. Thus her claim prompted me thinking that was she a habitual Liar? Funny thing non of diciples gathering there ever doubted that claim.

Megapure1000 1 month ago

  • Thanks for this vedeo and other links to understand other gurus & cults leaders doing the same deceiving thing. Seeing is believing, , only seeing the enjoy expressiong of Master in wedding ceremony and word for word spiritual diary of Takar Singh, Kapal Singh & ChingHai would convince a diehard follower of Chinghai like me. I heard these things before butwasn't totally conviced until I saw the evidences.

Megapure1000 1 month ago

  • @Megapure1000Thanks. I am glad this video/info is of useto you. Warm Greetings to you.

BiscayneNationalPark 1 month ago

dhammmaraja 3 weeks ago

  • I will always love you Master. Congratulations!

Adyacentes 2 months ago

  • Couldnotagree more with "originalhome"

One does not like what Master is doing he/she may leave. As simple as that."

If you want to be or not to be a Mormon, Catholics, Budhish, Muslim, Christian, etc...Its up to you! Any "cults" have good and bad disciples...

Do you know how many priest/pastors who had raped children inside the Churchs? And thisbad thing is still going on today?

You can join and leave anytime you want. Biscayne, What’s is your points?

mytube9640 3 months ago

  • @mytube9640The point is you have already answered your question when you say, "One does not like what Master is doing he/she may leave" & "Any "cults" have good andbad disciples"

Simply, the chinghai cult advertises only the "good" points whereas others like myself show the other side of the coin so people can make up their own minds to either join, stay or leave the cult.

Different viewpoints are important here

P.S. Children &/or spouses of Initiates NEVER find it easy to leave this cult.

BiscayneNationalPark 3 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkOnly a saint can marry a saint. Only clean pure minds can see the purity of thisact. Wisdom is beyond believes systems. I see it as a good way to filter people who are not sincere with spiritual practice.

Adyacentes 2 months ago

  • ba oi! Ba ma co Baby thi tin do cua ba lai cang dong hon nua do! Dung co Baby thi tot hon, de thoi gian viet sach ve cach bi mat thanh cong cua ba va tai nghe thuat hung bien cua ba chac co the thu hut nhieunguoi hon. Chuc ba binh an.

Lequyenphuong 3 months ago

  • phai noi ba mot nguoi thanh cong nhat trong lanh vuc trinh phuc long nguoi theo mot chan ly nao do... Nhung tiecthay con nguoi bang xuong thit co nhung ham muon thuoc ve xat thit, con nguoi thuoc tam linh co nhung ham muon cua mac tam linh. Song cho tam linh thi khong the theo tinh tinh ham muon cua xat thit ma ham muon theo xat thit thi tam linh xa lanh. Y thuc duoc dieu nay, that phuoc thay cho nguoi do! Phai chang Vô Thượng Hải da qua dau kho vi tinh yeu, trong tam hon ba qua le loi co don?

Lequyenphuong 3 months ago

  • Well let me tell you, nobody got a gun and said : go to Master CH. and be her follower. Then if you remember many people in this worldpreach and use as their own the teaching of Jesus, Buddha etc. Of course MCH come to this world to help us remember the old teachings. People have a weak mind and don't understand the teachings and instead of going in the middle way they go to the extreme, and they turn fanaticals, but that is not Master Ching Hai's doing it is the peoples weakness.

lightandsound2010 4 months ago

Classic Cult101 diatribe right there - Go on blame the victims!

How cold can you get!?!?

BiscayneNationalPark 4 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkGo ahead and read about Krisna and how he made love to all those girls,beware to judge a holy saint with your mundane eyes, I'm sure that if the True Life of Jesus would come to light, there would be many more atheos people. Mankind is not ready to know more... what a pitty.

Adyacentes 2 months ago

  • @AdyacentesGo ahead & presume i'm against this marriage. You should have read the description under the video & my comments on this matter before blah blah talking nonsense here.

Also read the comments & you will find that its thechinghai followers who are showing a confused reaction to this event. Some unable to believe their "holy saint" can do such things, others just react with disgust & resort to calling me names while others put their heads in the sand by saying this video is a fake!

BiscayneNationalPark 2 months ago

  • Love you master! Forever love you! Please forgive them!

GioNNy 4 months ago

  • 1- I dont see nothing wrong with her getting married

2- I was and still follow her teaching, even if I stop going tothe groups and seeing her 10 years ago

3- Nobody stop me or did anything negative to my person ever

4- As I went to the group and follow her and travells with the nuns one day I decide that was time to follow my way, the conecction was done, the teaching was accepted and was the time to be in my own again

NEXT>

lightandsound2010 5 months ago

  • @lightandsound20101- I totally agree. But check out the confusion & negative upheaval chinghai has caused byher actions among her disciples . Why couldn't a socalled suprememaster handle this better?

2- NOT "her" teachings dear. She borrowed it from santmat who borrowed from sikh+hindu mix etc.

3- Good for you.

4- I'm happy for you, really because sadly many followers simply give up their minds, energy & money...their whole lives to this woman & cult with long lasting negative consequences.

BiscayneNationalPark 5 months ago

  • Interesting. I hope thatcake had no eggs and her dress no silk.

aurajinv 5 months ago

  • Asshole, SHE WAS MARRIED WITH A "GERMAN" AND SHE GET DIVORCED SO MANY YEARS THIS IS A FAKE.... WHAT A JERK U ARE.... SO DISGUSTING PERSON... AND IGNORANT....DUH

abbykeys 6 months ago

  • @abbykeysThis is not a fake as i know the groom, His name starts with a D and ends with a C.

You know you should not be talking like that if you follow your master. Dont you remember what your master taught you? I think you need to go meditate and repent to your master onwhat you said.

patthisone 3 months ago

  • @abbykeysThis is not a fake as i know the groom, His name starts with a D and ends with a C.

You know you should not be talking like thatif you follow your master. Dont you remember what your master taught you? I think you need to go meditate and repent to your master on what you said.

patthisone 3 months ago

  • @abbykeysThis is not a fake as i know the groom, His name starts with a D and ends with a C.

You know you should not be talkinglike that if you follow your master. Dont you remember what your master taught you? I think you need to go meditate and repent to your master on what you said.

patthisone 3 months ago

  • @abbykeysThis is not a fake as i know the groom, His name starts with a D and ends with a C.

You know you should not be talking like that ifyou follow your master. Dont you remember what your master taught you? I think you need to go meditate and repent to your master on what you said.

patthisone 3 months ago

  • I use to see this woman on tv all the time. I have known quite a few people whose family life is ruined becauseof her teachings.

mzbtram 6 months ago

  • This earth is a show. What ever you can see, touch can be wrong. Because you don't see the whole.Remenber, Kmer at that time was a dead land with millions of dead soul. Those sorrow soul crying up to the heaven. Therefore, God must repair and rescue and bless this land to bring it back to life. Just like the story from the Bible. From beginning only Adam and Eve exist on earth to create new life.

CanKaraoke 7 months ago

I like "show(s)", "story" telling & allthat fantasy stuff sometimes, and i like cinema too as its good to escape REALITY sometimes....Ha Ha!

And nice poetry by the way, thanks...:)

BiscayneNationalPark 7 months ago

  • IT"S AFAKE VIDEO !!! LOL .

beautynature11 8 months ago

  • @beautynature11So you joined YOUTUBE yesterday just to repeat this dumb phrase over & over again on several channels. This is how ching hai trained you? Nothing else to say? She'll be so proud of you though..LOL.

By the way shealso initiated & trained the recently jailed RAPIST Guru Mohan Singh (Michael Lyons)!!

It seems you are in good company beautynutter11....Ha Ha Ha!

BiscayneNationalPark 8 months ago

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beautynature11 8 months ago

  • @beautynature11I thought ching hai talks about the wisdom eye & not "wisdom eyes" as you've decribed it. YOU don't even know your master teachings & you want to lecture others!?!?

Now why would someone you decribe as GREAT, SUPREME MASTER & ENLIGHTENED need her punydisciples to make FALSE 5 STAR REVIEWS on AMAZONDOTCOM to sell her SUBSTANDARD books?(See link in description above) etc etc

And as for your opinion on the authenticity of this video...well its just that....just your opinion:)

BiscayneNationalPark 8 months ago

  • This is FAKE video! It's very clear if you observe carefully. It's one ofthe attempts to degrade her dignity.

bvggstp 8 months ago

  • @bvggstpI've observed very carefully and I don't see it. What does seem to be fake is her bleach blondehair and her claims of being enlightened and her breatharians she promotes.

rubberritchie 8 months ago

  • wholly crap!! this is sofake!!!!

hjsdhjsd 8 months ago

  • wholly crap, this isso fake!!!

hjsdhjsd 8 months ago

  • She's nothing buta brainwasher. My mom, sister and my nephew follow her crap. Every time I criticize her so called so-called beliefs to her overpriced dresses, they get very upset and lash out at me. That is why I mostly don't visit them often, even if I still love them. If you call yourself a god in front of your follow, it's wrong at all levels. Someone who calls them-self as a god, is not suppose to have corrupt businesses and spend their followers money.

Scientology is just as bad as this.

YouSuckPeriod 9 months ago

  • @YouSuckPeriodTotally agree with you.These dangerous cults destroy families, break them up so their followers will solely depend on the cults for their self esteem. Having got the followers full attention the cults then go on to influence, use & abuse them in subtle ways.The followers are used to get more worldly riches & fame for their leaders like supremaster ching hai.

But you are doing well to warn others of these dangers so they don't make the mistake of joining these cults. Thank you:)

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • Dear Biscayne, that was for your sake, it was not a criticism. Feel free to interpret any way you like. Pleaseremember that the biggest ‘cult’ is our accumulated, mainly negative experiences/information of our minds. Only Master’s path will free us (at least I can ay this in my case) from it. Bottom line is; every one of us will answer for our own thoughts, speech and actions. Everything is running perfectly! GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeThis is pure mumbo jumbo bamboozle cult speak that only a fellow brainwashed chinghai cultist will fall for even if they don't understand aword said.

A few days ago I had to ask you to post worthy comments as you descended into personal attacks. I hereby repeat that request.

Now this thread is about this video showing your master chinghai's marriage in 1997. So either you have something intelligent to say on this or any related matter or you can please go watch suprememastertv.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • Dear Biscayne, I do understand your points but what will you achieve by criticizing? Sending the followers to save the planet is GOOD! Everyone must acknowledgethat. If something has gone wrong with the nature resort (I have not investigated that) does not mean She will be crucified (No mercy) forever and forbidden to do GOOD on that issue (environment). This is backward thinking and illogical. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeThe reason for exposing the real side ofthis woman is to show all her disciples that she is just a human being with all the same frailties/ups & downs just like anyone else & there is no need to worship her as some kind of living GOD thereby freeing themselves from the bondage of servitude to the will of another. Being in this personality cult leads to loss of self esteem/untold suffering for members & their families. Everyone should also see chinghai for the dictator that she is.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDear Biscayne, I am personally happy to see someone has the courage to declare that he/she is GOD. That is what we aremissing on this planet/universe. Everyone is sitting on the fence, even negative qualities are praised. That is why world does not want to hear the word ‘LIVING GOD’ or ‘GOD IN LIVING BODY’ in ‘human body’. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDear Biscayne, Master is God? That, you mustexperience it within yourself when the time is right. But please get out of negative thoughts. Negative will make you angry, will make you fighting. But I know that you do not really know the whole picture. I, a humble disciple, am just happy and grateful that I have Master’s path to follow. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeOh dear! I think i can see where this is going now with you claiming to knowif i'm angry & habouring negative thoughts when all your efforts begin to wane. Oh well it seems cult members will always be the same old same.

YOU can't even give a simple answer choosing to twist & turn & point to an imaginary "fighting" scenario.

First you have the affront to ask me to take my video down, now this!

Originalhome if there's nothing worthy you have to say on this matter..you know the rest.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDear Biscayne, I am trying to be constructive. Arguments, accusations, punishment, crucifixion, revenge, etc, will not take us forward. We must be positive to draw positive situations. This cult accusations are becoming a fashion, not all of them are true. I do not want to list the cultsof this world. Simply does not make any odds. Lovely to talk to you but I have to take my mum to the Armenian Church. I may post some more comments later. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeAre you sure you are "trying to be constructive"? You imply i have"negative thoughts. Negative will make you angry, will make you fighting".

If you truly want to be constructive you should try to be more objective, do a bit of research on chinghai & the group & generally take control of your life/stop bowing down to someone(chinghai) who says "You will never progress to my 9th level because you can only reach 5th level". Please have your wits about you while still in this group.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDear Biscayne, I am positive about Master and I am positive about you. The way and the words you use indicate anger and fighting, so I was quite open as you are, no hard feelings. On the issue of controlling my life, I am not interested tocontrol anything because you just waste your energy and time. I saw many people in my life saying the same thing and they are very humble now; you cannot control anything with mind. I go with the flow and all perfect. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeWell that's your bag if you don't want to be in control of your own life & prefer to submit your will to someone else. It may be easier for you to function like that. I'm sorry but for some reason this attitude reminds me of master's pets relationship with her. No seriously how different are you to chinghai's pets?

Andby the way you gravely mistake hard cold truths delivered with firm conviction with "anger & fighting".

Remember, "We are just having a healthy discussion"

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDear Biscayne, every person on this earth belongs to a so called ‘cult’. Everyone isdefending their ‘club’ and I respect that and try to understand the reasons for every organisation’s rules. If I do not like it I leave. No one is holding followers against their will. If one does not like what Master is doing he/she may leave. As simple as that. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeOh believe it & you should know better than anyone-many ARE leaving chinghai's group! Tell me this & try to be forthright please, how many contact persons and/or long-term/dilligent initiates have either resigned and/or left the group since you joined in 2003?

Contact Person=

Initiates=

About being free to leave thecult, that is often not as easy as you make it out to be, as being a member of a cult such as chinghai's is similar to a spouse staying in an abusive relationship.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDear Biscayne, Furthermore followers may or may not wish to worship, it is their business. Master does not want tobe worshipped, that I know. Very nice to talk to you. I would like to send you LOVE and LIGHT of the LORD, and humbly ask you to remove this video. Of course decision is yours. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeOk this woman calls herself the supreme master, the incarnation of various ancient famous & holy personalities etc, talks to Martians & also calls herself GOD, yet you say "master does not wantto be worshipped".

Either we are talking about someone else or frankly you are not that forthcoming.

I take your request to remove this video as an affront though i'm not surprised by this move as cultists ALWAYS eventually resort to PASSIVE AGGRESSION when they don't get their own way!

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • EARLIER COMMENT: Dear Biscayne, I found Master’s instructions very clear andlogical and never questioned or interested in what Master does with her life, and truly I have been having the full benefit of the Master’s teaching (Obviously cannot and must not be any different then any past and present Saint’s teachings.) GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeWow......! Do i understand you correctly? You don't question a master who destroys a Federally Protected Rare Nature reserve in the USA & then has the audacity & hypocrisy to send you & the restof her followers on a worldwide "Go Green, Save the Planet" Campaign?

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • Dear Biscayne, I was not asked to leave my wife or become a resident monk to follow Master. Master says that we do not even change our religion. But residents know the rules before asking to enter and live in centres. Surely She must have the right to ask anyone out if they break the rule and Her action should not be used against Her if/when She gets married. This is my humble understanding.

GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeNow its interesting you admit to such an insensitive rule especially coming from chinghai who claims to promote/ teach love & compassion amongst all sentient beings.

Yes rules are rules but how can you legislate for when & how a person will &should fall in LOVE?

And i must say punishing the monks/nuns with disgrace & expulsion is NOT the actions of a loving master.

I would simply wish them well but encourage them to join the group meditations at their local centres.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDearBiscayne, Master has a difficult job. But I am 100% sure She always LOVE all of them even if She have to ask them out. We all must analyse ourselves before accusing the Master. Judges punish millions of people even they do not want to but at some point they have to apply the law. Is this correct? GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeChinghai's law is dictatorial while the judges interprete law with checks from a jury. "Ask them out"? Master gets foreign group to send "mugshots" of these poor people to all centres around the world warning all to stay away from them else they too will be expelled. THEY ARE TREATED LIKE FELONS simply for falling in Love.And this by a so called master who professes to "always LOVE all of them"!!

Chinghai uses fear of expulsion & humiliation to control her disciples in this cult .

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDear Biscayne any one is free to leave. Actually this world is the real cult, with all its rules made in desperation.You are missing the elephant and busy to find bacteria! No hard feelings; we are just having a healthy discussion. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeAbout being free to leave the cult, that is often not as easy as you make it outto be, as being a member of a cult such as chinghai's is similar to a spouse staying in an abusive relationship.

Bacteria is good for you, you don't know? Ha Ha Ha

Biscayne:)

BiscayneNationalPark9 months ago

  • Dear Biscayne. I understand the hard feelings of those whose family life suffered but we must not jump into conclusion that Master is personally responsible for that.We know that our family life has been suffering because of many different reasons, mainly because of intolerance and impatience of the family members. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeYou accuse the suffering family members of intolerance when for example a sister initiate suddenly goes off to work for suprememastertv in Florida,USA a thousand miles away from home leaving her small childto be cared for by her husband who is not only bewildered but is understandably upset to say the least. Master who has overall supervision of smtv & its working teams & who by the way claims to be GOD is directly responsible for the suffering of these affected family members.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDear Biscayne, Families losing their loved ones because they are sent to war to kill and killed. My family suffered because male members were taken and massacred. These actions are being carried out against individuals’ will by the authorities. At least sister (With her own decision) is doing something good for humanity and in much better environment, she and the family will get the benefit at the end. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeI'm sorry to hear of the suffering your family went through. I sincerely wish you & your family continued strength & wisdom to continue tolive in light & love.

Sincerely,

Biscayne

BiscayneNationalPark9 months ago

  • Dear Biscayne, if anyone is interested in the path I outline in general and it is up to the individual to investigate and get initiation. Personal experiences cannot be discussed because this alone will not help anyone. It is better that every individual get wonderfulexperiences after putting their own effort, then it is valuable to them. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeAt last you give a direct reply. I thought for a while i was being fobbed off there:)

What's the point in learning anything & not being able to campareknowledge & experiences with your fellow students? What's this cult trying to hide?

I put it to you that at the time of initiation into the cult initiates are sworn to secrecy regarding the meditation techniques & the sharing of inner experiences are discouraged as a classic cult control mechanism. Disobedience leads to expulsion.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDear Biscayne, this is like a mixed classroom, long time students and beginners practicing together. So would it be practically beneficial to tell each other the experiences? Can you imagine a beginner experienced something wonderful and talk about it? How would the long time disciples would feel? There are many reasons to keep quiet. Furthermore having experience does not necessarily indicate that you are advanced. And this is nothing to do with being cult. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeWhy can't you be a bit more forthcomingin your posts. For example your "mixed classroom" analogy is false/misleading! The FULL initiates DO NOT practice with the COVENIENT METHOD ones ok? I imagine the long time disciple would be pleased for the beginner one & even offer words of advice/encouragement unless the older one has no inner experience as promised to them by chinghai during initiation which IS one of the real reasons disciples are not allowed to share inner experiences.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkDear Biscayne, I meant beginner full initiates andlong term full initiates. Master’s advice on this issue is reasonable. I am not in agreement with you on this. To have an experience depends on the student’s sincerity and diligence, and many other conditions. Every kind of people approaches to this path if they all talk without knowledge it will be a mess, especially if they are after experiences only. Advanced initiates encourage others naturally. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeThis is not "Masters advice". Its an order & any initiate who disobeys this order continuously will first be red carded, told to sit at the back of the meditation hall like a naughty school child(Humiliation again) then eventually expelled.

But i still maintain this is purely a cult classic control mechanism. If you dont believe this, how come no initiate really knows what their innerspiritual level is after all the signposts/realms have been explained to them during initiation?

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • Dear Biscayne, It is really unconditional if you are. I was unconditional so I have the full benefit. I mind my own business so I get the benefit. I do not judge or criticize anyone; I love my enemy so I get the full benefit, and so on.. It isreally great. I am thankful for what I have so I get the full benefit. I help people without expecting any return and thank God I have food and shelter plus more so I get the full benefit. It is that simple! GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

You've constantly adjudgedme to be filled with anger & harbouring negative thoughts just for expressing my points strongly.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • Dear Biscayne, I found Master’s instructions very clear and logical and never questioned or interested in what Master does with her life,and truly I have been having the full benefit of the Master’s teaching (Obviously cannot and must not be any different then any past and present Saint’s teachings.) GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeWow......! Do i understand you correctly? You don't question a master who destroys a Federally Protected Rare Nature reserve in the USA & then has the audacity & hypocrisyto send you & the rest of her followers on a worldwide "Go Green, Save the Planet" Campaign?

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • Dear Biscayne, make my point clear; many things caused unhappiness before but with the help of Master’s path I understood the route of unhappiness and became happy. I thinkthis way is clearer. In the beginning I used the term ‘happy disciple’. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

But you stil haven't addressed the "the path, given to me without any condition" statement from your original comment.

Are you that "happy" to break a precept to defend your master?

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • Dear Biscayne, I found this video of Master recently, initially, very briefly I was surprised, and upset to see this kind of criticism, but quickly came tothe terms that as a happy disciple of Master (Since 2003) I will carry on the path, given to me without any condition (By Master), the path made me understand many things which made my mind uncomfortable and confused, causing me and people around me unhappiness. GOD BLESS

originalhome 9 months ago

  • @originalhomeYou are either not a disciple orhave for some reason left out some info if you say this path was given to you "without any condition" as chinghai & her initiating officials WARN all initiates not to divulge both the meditation techniques & whatever inner experience the initiates get from meditation(cult101). You're in a cult if this path makes you "uncomfortable & confused". The "unhappiness" will reduce when you free yourself by doing your own research(see video description).

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • Thou shalt not judge any enlightened Master's action. She did thiswedding ceremony so that she can legally adopt numerous homeless children in Cambodia, out of unconditional love. Just observe, there is no passion between the bride or groom, and none of her sister or parents are present to 'congratulate' them. Disciples should not lose faith over this and non-disciples should not create bad karma. Anyway, many past Masters are married with children (e.g. Radha Soami Masters)...no big deal.

yvonvenus 9 months ago

  • @yvonvenusIf you had read the description under this video before commenting you would have seen we are in agreement as far as a "master" marrying is "no big deal". The reason you give for this marriage is interesting but Ms "Tomb Raider" didn't have to marry a Cambodian to adopt a child from there. Perhaps you can explain why chinghai's case was different. By the way your first statement about not judging "any" master's action is pure cult101(Please check "The Guru Test" link in description).

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • all of us, and nobody is perfect. For a moment I tought abt stopping my believes in Quan Yin and Master but then I analized and said to myself: why should I do it ?...I don't deserve it. My life has changed completly for good, Now, I'm a lovely, calm person, I have peace and happiness in my life. Before we take a decition we must take into account the good and bad things we have from it and then put them in a balance, If you've more bad things than good then leave it ! the contrary TAKEIT !

Nickytailor 9 months ago

  • I need to recognize that as a follower of Master Suma, this video dissapointed me so much,it was a shock for me due to I saw a lot of incongruency in what Mater does and what monks/nuns should do, this made me feel confused for long time. If this video is real then I have learnt from it, what an enlighted human being should do and shouldn't do, we human beings learn from each other, in the case that she did a mistake, she is a human being and all we human have mistakes...

Nickytailor 9 months ago

  • @NickytailorYou sound like a good genuine personwho thinks for themselves. Chinghai is lucky to have you as her disciple. I agree with you when you say, "nobody is perfect". Yes this looks like a "mistake" from master but is she going to admit this or at least put other thousands of "confused" disciples minds at ease with some kind of explanation? But actually you are ok as i feel you are so balanced inside, you personally dont need explanation. I admire you for that. Peace.

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Nickytailor 9 months ago

  • I love the Master Suma, QuanYin has changed my life a lot just thanks to her. I am not anyone to critizice anyone and I don't see anything bad If she got married coz she is all love, the only thing that I don't understand is why did she prohibite to her monks to get married whe she herself consider marriage something sacred ?..GodBless you :)

Nickytailor 9 months ago

  • @NickytailorShe stops her monks/nuns from getting married simply to control them. She needs their 100% attention on herself. If they are married or have lovers then their attention is divided between lovers & chinghai. Chinghai controls what they eat, what they wear, how much meditation, when to sleep, how much free labor &she even gives them new names. She erases all their self esteem away. Chinghai expels any monk/nun who falls in love while she herself can follow her heart & get married!?

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • When are we going to learn? we human beings as soon as we see someone exceptional and unique like Supreme Master Ching Hai, do not rest until we try the hardest to find anything to twist to blacken a Spiritual and Humanitarian Teacher's image. Sincewhen Master's private life is yours or anyone business. We had always been reminded by Master that the Kingdom of God is within you, now! and that we are all Children of God. Rest assured that daily even more people Go Veg2Save our Home Planet. :-)

cmdb22118 10 months ago

  • @cmdb22118Its you who twists things. It was only when chinghai started being a "self-aggrandizing narcissist on a mission to pimp herself as a living deity", being a hypocrite,destroying families, destroying the environment & blatantly deceiving her sincere followers with her false claims of Godhood that the media exposed chinghai's true evil self. She has spoilt her name all by herself. And this is howit gets personal or "private" for those affected persons & families.

BiscayneNationalPark 10 months ago

  • what is sheSupreme Mistress of...? thisermon is a typically western marriage cereomny with the usual phoney unimaginative marriage vows of a Christian wedding. Let her eat cake!

leopdspots 10 months ago

  • The best Supreme Master video I've ever seen. However, it needs 15 different language subtitles on it! Why would anyone go to the effort and expense to fake such a video. What I wonder is why she is going headlong into promoting 'breatharianism' recently? How long before there is another death fromthis quackery?

breathariansarefake 10 months ago

  • I think this is beautiful if indeed it is authentic. I feel that if anything, thisvideo can help us to re-evaluate or notions or assumptions that we have on what an Elightened being should or should not do; of wanting to confine her into a restricted role of an Immaculate Virgin Mary of sorts. Englightened beings in the past have married, and so this should not come as a surprise to us. We need to withdraw our projections and judgements and wish our Master happiness and good health.

stonethevegan 11 month ago

Agreed:)

BiscayneNationalPark 11 month ago

  • I think this is beautiful if indeed it is authentic. I am a practitioner of the Quan Yin Method that Master Ching Hai taught me. In my humble opinion, this video if anything serves the purpose of re-examining our assumptions that we place on her; of wanting to turn her into a VirginMary of sorts. Englightened masters in the past have married and even more than one spouse and it is not for us to judge, but to extend the same love to the Masters as they extend to us. I am happy for her.

stonethevegan 11 month ago

Now if this is a thing of beauty which i agree it is, what reason is there for ching hai to keep this a secret & cause confusion amongst her disciples over the years?Surely not the actions of an "enlightened being".

BiscayneNationalPark11 month ago

Certainly one way to look at it and I'm sure many share the same view. I wonder though if even Masters couldbe granted some freedom to privacy, or must they report everything they do? Also, the wedding appears to be filmed and photographed with her knowledge. If this were to truly be kept a secret, wouldn't anyone not allow for cameras or videos?

stonethevegan 11 month ago

  • @stonetheveganI agree to the privacy aspect but shouldn't the master be seen to be practising what she's preaching? For example she expelled her monks whose only "crime" was to fall in love. The monks/nuns are not allowed to have intimate/physical relationships in their already regimentedlifestyle while she secretly enjoys the pleasures of the same?!

One rule for them & another for master?!

Let your imagination run wild when i say not EVERYTHING anyone films is meant for public consumption:)

BiscayneNationalPark 11 month ago

  • well... fools only believe what their eyes tell them. Also.. how come you go around posting OTHER peoples personal life to the public? why dont YOU post YOUR wedding on you tube and let us talk crap on you?or... lemme guess,,, you never had a wedding! HAA!!!! kus you too ugly fooooo MUHHIIHHAhahahaha ok well i need to finish my math work... and yea i felt i wasted 5 minutes of my life telling how i feel to BiscayneNationna bla bla blafakenamehereforscammingpurp­oses.....

balitru 11 month ago

  • Nothingwrong at all, whether the wedding is for real or fake. Whatever the reason, we do not need to know. What we need to know is to understand her teaching , the Noble Truth , which is all good.

Quansan52 1 year ago

  • @Quansan52"Her" teaching!? Chinghai remixes & regurgitates old scriptures from Buddhism,Christianity,Taoism,H­induism & New Age mixed with a bit of the old wives tales & her own egomaniac rantings topped up with anexotic but common meditation technique(thumbs in ears) which she learnt from the Sikh guru Thakur Singh(look him up too) & you call this "her" teachings? Her lectures/books are nothing more than her interpretations of the old teachings plus a bit of fiction. How noble indeed....NOT!

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkChing Hai has been my master for many years and still is. She never expect anything from me except that to follow the five precepts; no harming of any sentient being ( meaning no eating animal ), no stealing, no adultery, no lying, no intoxicant and to meditate daily. It isno surprise she refers to the old scriptures, for they are basically refering to the same God or Source. Unfortunately, such teachings are often misunderstood.

Quansan52 9 months ago

  • @Quansan52Do you really wonder why "such teachings are often misunderstood" when she preaches one thing & practises the direct opposite?

Apart from her hypocrisy of not allowing her monks/nuns to marry/have intimate relationships while its ok for her to do the same, she DESTROYED a whole nature reserve just for her selfishneeds while at the same time screaming "save the planet now!"

(just google my name with ching hai)

If the supreme one cant follow the teachings what chance for her followers?

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkIt is easy tocomment on something that is just hearsay or what appears to be. Like yourself, I was sceptical about Master Ching Hai, her teachings and the Quan Yin Meditation ( inner light and inner sound ). I had to try it for myself , to personally taste " the cake" instead of listening to others telling me how good it is. I suppose one has to experience first - hand to really know or understand about the true nature.

Quansan52 9 months ago

  • @Quansan52Are you saying the Miami Dade Police Dept{USA) investigation into chinghai's destruction of the Federal Protected Nature Reserve is "hearsay"?

+ the fact that she prohibits her monks/nuns not to marry(a well known rule among initiates) while she enjoys the same(Video evidence) is also "hearsay"?

You have all these facts but still say hearsay? No, now i really want to understand you.

There's no point discussing "the cake" either if you can't get the above simple facts right.

BiscayneNationalPark 9 months ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkThere is no point in discussing this matter further. We clearly have a difference of opinion, of which we areentitled to. There is no point in trying to understand me and vise versa. If I have offended you in any way, I apologise. And I wish you all the best.

Quansan52 9 months ago

  • @Quansan52You haven't offended me in any way & no need for apologies. You've been more civil than some of the other chinghai supporters on here. Maybe the "master power" affects some disciples differently:)

But Best of wishes to you.

Sincerely,

Biscayne.

BiscayneNationalPark9 months ago

  • Mo phat. NMTHVTSBT!God bless u!

mumymaz 1 year ago

  • BiscayneNationalPark, I feel sorry for you as LOOSER, BIG BIG LOOSER. Let's Grown up, get reall, learn how to be human. You known mate, If you aim high in your life, you will get high via versa. Sic, this Video is a SHAME for you, your ancestorsand your COUNTRY as well.

MsSaviour28 1 year ago

  • BiscayneNationalPark. Thank you for your posted. I have known in person(at least 3 families were getting divorced because of Master Ching Hai Philosophy) There are no Religion/Spirituality teaching people to Leave your family/Person you love. This is COMPLETELY WRONG

ThuChutCoi1 year ago

  • And thank you ThuChutCoi for your support & having this video on your channel. It's so sad to hear of these dear families being broken apart by this chinghai cult. The more "real" info there is on the internet of this cult the more people willbe able to avoid being hurt by them. Also it will only be a matter of time before we see chinghai's real secret crazy teachings (including video) all over the internets as more disciples open their eyes & leave the organisation.

Have a nice day now:)

BiscayneNationalPark 1 year ago

  • Hi Guys, This video is real and there isNO need to argue about it, thank you for let me see this, I love Master Ching Hai, it is not important if she married or live single, the important is her teaching is GOOD. not only good but I think the best. if you like Master Ching Hai, thenyou like her teaching, but do not look at her personal life, why make so much fuss about if she get married or not? this is so unimportant. I still LOVE her forever.

hyeonju20 1 year ago

  • Yes its her private life & i agree, her marriage is no big deal,but she claims to be the suprememaster who should have foreseen the confusion her handling of this matter would cause. The "fuss" is therefore her fault.Also she expelled some of her devoted monks/nuns simply for falling in love. Kicked out completely from the organisationthey so loved, never allowed to come back, while she secretly cultivated her wedlock. As fellow human beings, is it one rule for her & another for the followers?

BiscayneNationalPark 1 year ago

  • @hyeonju20I known too many people had saying this.... and they all end up the same style................. GETTINGDIVORCED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ThuChutCoi 1 year ago

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hyeonju20 1 year ago

  • BiscayneNationalPark is a littlesad bitch from hell that craves attention.

Tonylee2153 1 year ago

  • Fake

PromoteGlobalCooling 1 year ago

breathariansarefake 10 months ago

  • This video looks super fake, you fail. Is this one of those asian impersonator or so, how the heck didI stumble here any way...weird.. Peace!

Tonylee2153 1 year ago

  • Hi Tonylee2153, Just becauseyou say its fake does not make it so. Since this video has been circulating online all these years chinghai herself has NOT gone on record to deny the fact she is indeed the one in this video. Your first question should be directed at chinghai herself & you fool no one on here with your "stumble" excuse as the title clearly stated what you CHOSE to click on & watch:)

Regards.

BiscayneNationalPark 1 year ago

  • @BiscayneNationalParkWhy would she waste her time with these fake petty stuff that you're so obsessed with, I'm sure she has more important stuff to worry about. I don't think youhave good intentions or enough respect toward people so what you're doing here is really disgusting and shameful. If you knew her personally then that's fine, but attacking someone you don't even know is very despicable and evil.

Tonylee2153 1 year ago

  • This revelation pains you so much that you deperately resort to personal attacks rather than calmly providing logical contributions. You sadly lower yourself to the exact same behavior of which you accuse me of. Whatever your infantile protestations, chinghai's silence on this matter is really telling to say the least. This video ismerely a public service to show a more balanced view of this woman. Now check out the highly emotive way you express youself to see who the real obsessed one is.

BiscayneNationalPark 1 year ago

  • Actually your mom pains me more.. bitch ass faggot.

Timsee40 1 year ago

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Tonylee2153 1 year ago

  • I guess Master Ching Hai has multi personality disorder. One day an angleanother day devil...hahahahahhaa....

ThuChutCoi 1 year ago

  • Yes, Timelessreveries is right. This video is forged. The voice editing does not match the people's mouth in the video. Also, the lady's nose in this video is a bit too tall to be Supreme Master Ching Hai. Good impersonation but we allknow it's not Supreme Master Ching Hai. And why on earth don't they show the lady's face properly instead of being tainted by the veil and the poor camera quality? Word of advice for BiscayneNationalPark and the people who made this video: You can't escape karma.

sesamestreetfan2010 1 year ago

  • Oh dear, listen to yourself. You claim this is a forgery with animpersonator in it. So why would any1 forge a video when you already have an impersonator for the said person!?! The voice quality is pretty good considering this is from an old VHS tape.

Instead of rushing in with 2 feet to debunk this clip you could have shown a bit of patience to watch the whole video to see ching hai actually raise the veil over her face.

The same is true for yourself as regards the karma business.

BiscayneNationalPark 1 year ago

Tonylee2153 1 year ago

  • Don't worry it's clearly fake. Anyone who even attempts to analyze closely will see the differences right away.

And if you don't, feel free to ask me I can name quite afew things thatare different.

Timelessreveries 1 year ago

  • Hmm an interesting attempt at being convincing. Those who see without analyzing will be tempted to believe. However, there's a thing called impersonating. Don't believe me? Search E'casanova. He's a Michael Jackson lookalike.

He certainly looks everything like michael jackson from eyes, nose, mouth but is he? NOPE. In addition to that he can sing, dance, and FAKEMJs voice so accurately that MJ actually hired the guy to impersonate him. Go to ratpackimpersonators . com for more info!

Timelessreveries1 year ago

  • forgive me it is ratpackimpersonators .wordpress . com

Timelessreveries 1 year ago

  • That E'Cassanova chap does look like MJ & one can see why he would be hired for bit part roles as opposed to truly grand roles. Now would you like to give a reasonwhy anyone would use an impersonator of themselves at a grand occasion such as their own wedding? Plus why also impersonate the bridegroom too? Ching Hai's disciples of that time recognise this chap too you know. Why wouldn't she & her groom want to attend their own wedding?? The 2 disciples bowing down to her were also impersonators?

BiscayneNationalPark 1 year ago

  • Why did you assumed that I said she hired impersonators for the wedding? I never said that. That is only applied in MJ's case.

There are many antis who hate her for all sortsof reasons. Those who believe in the rumors, those who thought their family were taken away.. There are even some ex-disciples (perhaps the ones present in the videos) who hates her because she was harsh or scolded at them for their own good.

Timelessreveries 1 year ago

  • And if they could go as far as finding a lookalike for her to perform gestures, movements, voice etc to be similar then why NOT find someone else to impersonate her disciples to make it more convincing? Obviously it's really easy to rule out just her.

If you compare this video with her lecture videos from 1997 on youtube you will see that the master ching hai actually is alot slimmer than this lady. And please don't tell me she specifically gained weight for her wedding.

Timelessreveries 1 year ago

  • There are other differences too but in any case, I really don't want to continue wasting my time explaining. I'm not here to convince anyone that this video is forged or not because I believe that no matter what I say antis will still be antis and the devoted will remained devoted. I am here for those who are in between who wants another explanation. And I've said enough. The rest is dependent upon yourkarma and fate.

Timelessreveries 1 year ago

  • FAITH is NOT the avoidance of logic and reasoning in desire of a belief. FAITH is looking beyondwhat physical comprehensions and delving into what is within you. Your eyes and ears can fool you but what you experience spiritually in your heart and soul cannot.

Timelessreveries 1 year ago

  • indeed MJ's not the subject of this vid. But thanks for admiting on chinghai's behalf that she was "harsh" & "scolded" her disciples while presumptuously stating it was for their own "good", as you dont even know each case. Plus you display a grave insensitivity/disrespect for those who have actually lost family members to this cult by saying they "thought their family were taken away" (Google Rick Ross Cult Awareness Forum). For some1 who purports to be "in between" pls readyour posts again!

BiscayneNationalPark 1 year ago

  • someone should add it to her wiki just for a record_since I dont see it anywhere(except youtube) not even in anyfamous cult sites_this is not new or a kept secret cuz it was a vid allowed 'n even spot a few western media on the spot after the ceremony...why then never been made public?? at all?! ..another wondering.

..Master's supreme magik ^^

twiggie 1 year ago
 

  • twiggie, wiki has thousands of her followers watching/editing this woman's official profile there against only a handful of those who know her real profile.As for famous cult sites, try the Rick Ross Cult Awareness Forum for more real ching hai stuff. Yes the ceremony looked really beautiful & its a big wonder why this was not made public to both her disciples, on her numerous official websites & other media. Why hide?

BiscayneNationalPark 1 year ago
 

  • BUT WHY?and who's her 'boy'? anyone clear me up for this?...many questions.

twiggie 1 year ago
 

  • yes, it's her! even the signature voice. pretty much a shock to me though. thanksfor posting the fact the truth.

twiggie 1 year ago
 

  • You're welcome. Yes the signature voice & the signature one-eyed blink etc. Yes this is ching hai of the supreme master TV who is now a blond these days. The boy was one of her personalattendants during the mid 90's accompanying her most notably during her world tour of that era.

BiscayneNationalPark 1 year ago